I know I was told "questioning the gb is the same as questioning God". In other words.... no one dares to question the gb! I thought I also saw that statement in a publication as well but have no way to search for it.
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Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...
by Calebs Airplane inwithin the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.
however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.
he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.
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I think I heard a few years ago that jws were told to stop saying "the society" and "the new order" because they sounded too cult like. My husband and his family say "old system of things" and "the new system of things" frequently. -
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GB member Geoffrey Jackson is lying!
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inokay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.
but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.
so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.
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He claims he has no knowledge of BCG's case? Does he expect everyone to believe the WT Lawyers have not even mentioned the case to him???? -
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GB member Geoffrey Jackson is lying!
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inokay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.
but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.
so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.
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He is trying to rattle Mr. Stewart. It won't work ..... Angus Stewart is brilliant. -
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Western Decline is a Reality - 2015 Memorial Attendance
by berrygerry inas has been observed in western congos, the decline is real.. usa is 12.475 % less -2015 vs 2014.
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I've always wondered why there is so much emphasis put on the #'s for the Memorial. Many attend the Memorial but don't attend any other meetings for the rest of the year. Same thing happens in churches for Easter and Christmas. The parking lots are packed, but only twice a year. -
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If you could do anything publicly to get JWs out
by cognac inand money wasn't an issue, what would it be?
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If money was no object I would approach the GB members and tell them to name their price. Every man has their price right? The money is theirs but first they have to post videos on their website divulging all the weird stuff in the jw history and admit that it all is a scam. They have to come clean on everything and then disappear with the promise of never to start any new religions ever again. I think I would have to break out and sing that old gospel song "OH HAPPY DAY"!!
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I now hate being called 'sister'
by purrpurr insince waking up i find i am bridling at being called 'sister'.
but it feels like an identity that is being forced on me.. i feel like shouting "i have a name you know!".
it is just me or does anyone else recognise this?.
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Yes, Blondie that is how I understood it. Like it was an honor that I didn't deserve until I was baptized. I was also told that I couldn't go out in FS until baptized. I've since been told by others though that isn't true. -
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I now hate being called 'sister'
by purrpurr insince waking up i find i am bridling at being called 'sister'.
but it feels like an identity that is being forced on me.. i feel like shouting "i have a name you know!".
it is just me or does anyone else recognise this?.
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Maybe it's more comfortable if you grew up a jw, but for me being an outsider it felt and sounded very strange. When I was studying they explained that I really wouldn't be a true sister until I was baptized. Little did they know I was fine with that. My fleshly (yep that is another weird one) sisters are my true sisters.
I agree with the others that posted it's a control/cult term.
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Steven Hassan on The Joe Rogan Experience #680 podcast.
by dazed but not confused ini listen to the joe rogan experience podcast and saw he just uploaded the latest episode with steven hassan.
i've so far only listened to the first 10 minutes.
they briefly mention the jw's.
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I wasn't able to listen to the entire interview, however, what I heard was very interesting and informative. He is a former cult member (moonies) and his family was able to get him out. He spoke about several different cults and the methods they use to manipulate their followers. -
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Rodney Spinks Lies...
by iwasblind inhi guys.
i actually have had dealings with rod and found him to be a very reasonable and "non-robotic" man in the past.. i know it should not surprise me, but i was disappointed to hear his lies and half-truths.. they know their stuff and are not easily led, but he tried to lead the royal commission to believe that 2 people could be involved in investigating a claim - which is wrong.. his lack of memory on what parts of the judicial process are biblical - hello - none are.
there are no scriptures that backup the use of 3 men, a body of elders, cutting people off from family and friends, restrictions, etc.. he also lied about the gb being involved in policy creation and changes.. his statement that in all cases, elders are told to inform parents that they can go to the authorities and get the full support of the congregation is not verifiable.
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Watching Rodney Spinks I couldnt stop thinking about how he reminded me of Dr. Frederick Chilton in The Silence of the Lambs. He was the warden/doctor/preacher that was trying to rehabilitate Dr. Lechter.